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Old 11-21-2012, 10:06 AM
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Default 27.72lbs/12.580kg Jet9 RDO Carbon na bigat parin. :P

Nasa glorious bike shop ako kahapon kasi naputol ang chain ko after fixing my chain sabi ko pwede ba pa weigh ng bike ko and I was surprise nakita ko na more than 12kilos ang bigat. :P
Anyway I was hoping na around 10kilos lang bike ko. I know na hindi naman issue dapat weight kung hindi ka kumakarera. Basta gusto ko lang magaang :D

Saan pa kaya ako pwede mag bawas ng timbang? Syempre yun rider kelangan din magbawas ng timbang pero bike muna hehehe.

Here is my current setup.

Frame: Niner Jet9RDO
Cockpit: Niner RDO except for the saddle velo
Wheels: Sun Ringle charger pro
Front tire: Ardent
Rear tire: Ignitor
group set: SLX
Pedal: Expedo plat form
No tubes na rin. I hope wala nako nalimutan. THanks in advance.





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Old 11-21-2012, 10:36 AM
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Default Re: 27.72lbs/12.580kg Jet9 RDO Carbon na bigat parin. :P

shocking!

merida ko is 28 LBS. pero spokes ko is just plain stainless steel, heavy rims (DT Swiss 445D), Nevegal Tires, Alivio Drivetrain (9speed but RD is 9speed deore), 2013 SLX Brakeset, Forza Seatpost, Token Handlebar, Serfas Barends, Generic Stainless bottle holder, Da Bomb Saddle, Wellgo pedals.. tube tires din pala ako..

ano seatpost mo sir? Fork?

in my opinion, magaan na yan hehehe.. ayun nga lang preference mo mas magaan sana.. hehehe..

(Im changing my spokes to a lightweight DT Swiss spokes this weekend, sabi around 200grams ang buong set. Current spokes ko is generic so i'm guessing may substantial weight loss. Also, i'm planning on getting either 2012 XT Drivetrain or 2013 SLX Drivetrain)
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Default Re: 27.72lbs/12.580kg Jet9 RDO Carbon na bigat parin. :P

drivetrain would be your best bet. then prolly carbonize anything you can on the cockpit. weigh your pedals and shoes. then try to find a lighter pedal and shoe combination, or switch to clipless....laking gaang nyan kapag nag-eggbeater pedals ka, he he.

wheelset na rin. ang sa akin lang eh....kahit mabigat ang bike pero mababa ang rotational weight...it will feel lighter than at lighter bike.
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Default Re: 27.72lbs/12.580kg Jet9 RDO Carbon na bigat parin. :P

You could change the wheelset to Sun Black Flag Pro's, or American Classic, or custom ZTR wheelset. Lighter wheelsets will always make your bike feel lighter. I would also suggest changing to lighter tires like Schwalbe Rocket Ron 2.25's or Racing Ralph's.

Go full XTR if you have the budget -- naka RDO ka naman - he he so siguro may budget ka. Kung alanganin ka sa budget kahit XTR crank lang malaking difference sa feel (To me anyway). If your chain is SLX you can change it to XTR also.

My FS aluminum 29er frame is estimated at 3 kilos but my whole bike weighs around 12 kilos. I run full XTR with a custom Hope/WTB frequency wheelset since mabigat ako. The only carbon thing is the handlebar (Easton EC70). My entire cockpit is aluminum. My pedals are XTR Trail. No weight weenie stuff.

Ano pala fork niyo?

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Default Re: 27.72lbs/12.580kg Jet9 RDO Carbon na bigat parin. :P

Forks nga pala is Rockshox SID XX 100mm lighter than counterpart Fox kaya yan pinili ko. Seat post, stem, handle bar is all RDO it's lighter than ordinary carbon.
Some friends is suggesting na 2x10 drive train. Pero medyo takot ako sa clipless last ko na siguro yan.
Tires and wheels ang suggestion ng iba. I like my tire set up e.

If I'm going to change my wheel set. What do you suggest? Thanks
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Default Re: 27.72lbs/12.580kg Jet9 RDO Carbon na bigat parin. :P

magaan na yan.. wehehe.. but since ayaw mo clipless..

am classic, ZTR, tapos XTR gruppo..

depende yan on your budget.. you should be willing to spend thousands to lose a few grams hehehe
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Default Re: 27.72lbs/12.580kg Jet9 RDO Carbon na bigat parin. :P

Any other suggestion on wheel set? Mas ok ba to assemble or buy a set nalang?
I'm thinking to get Mavic SLR or assemble ZTR crest and Chris king hubs.
Drivetrain balak ko is to go 2x10. Thanks!
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Default Re: 27.72lbs/12.580kg Jet9 RDO Carbon na bigat parin. :P

if budget isn't a concern..

build your own wheelset.. para mapili mo yung lightest (and yet strongest) spokes

and yup, 2x10 setup would lighten your rig hehehe..


pwede din, buy a wheelset, compare to what you want to build.. hehehe
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Default Re: 27.72lbs/12.580kg Jet9 RDO Carbon na bigat parin. :P

magaan na iyan, especially for a 29er. of course, it's no secret that it's going to cost you. as many have suggested, start with the wheels. carbon sets are the rage now sa magazines - lighter and stiffer daw but uber expensive.

since magaan na fork mo, move your cranks up a notch or two. xtr is probably the lightest unless you can find those new specialized, truvativ or raceface carbon cranks. slx - xt alone would have some weight savings, how much more kung xtr.

i-carbon mo na rin ang ang seatpost. switch to foam grips - although these don't last very long. thinner or look for lighter tires, marami pang ibang possibilities. you might want to go 1x10 na rin to save on the weight of a front shifter, cable and derailleur.
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Default Re: 27.72lbs/12.580kg Jet9 RDO Carbon na bigat parin. :P

Would it make you feel better if i told you my bike weighs almost the same as yours? Although I'm on a SS rigid setup? hehe, kidding aside. I'd go for the wheelset first, a pair of Mavic SLR's would definitely save you a lot of weight. Then drivetrain. If you can, go for high end SRAM groupsets. Carbon cranks etc.. I'd probably upgrade the cockpit parts last
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[imo] i think in these areas ka magconcentrate muna [wheelset include tires, drivetrain]............. if you want to lighten up your rig a bit more............change the saddle na din..............
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Default Re: 27.72lbs/12.580kg Jet9 RDO Carbon na bigat parin. :P

I think it would be great to see it for your self, like the Wheelset find your recent wheelset weight from the web, then you have your own basis... next step is look for your prospect lots of them, from mid end to high end... most of the parts these days are sold in Ebay and had it's spec's, geometrical and other infos, including users review.... saves you time, you dont have to drive around the city... then pag alam muna at least three option, call your LBS for best deal... lalo ngayon Pre-Xmass deals..

for me 3 parts you would go...

1) Wheelset includes tires ( tubeless )
2) Groupset XTR (2x10) or SRAM XO or XX (2x10)
3) Carbonized everything that is not included sa groupset...


woooohhlah... you get less than 10kg bike, but heavy on the pocket... but dont do it one time walang thrill, building a dream bike is a lifetime commitment, every week na may upgrade napakasarap i try ang worthiness trail o sa byahe... next step will follow...

Happy safe riding to you and everyone.. :-)
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Default Re: 27.72lbs/12.580kg Jet9 RDO Carbon na bigat parin. :P

definitely it'll get a bit lighter when you shift to 2x10 or 1x10 setup but it'll be heavier to pedal uphill or on steep trails if you only got the big & middle chain ring otherwise it's fine if you have the middle & smallest.
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1) Change the wheel with extralite tubotreme you will reduce about 885grams from ur current setup.
2) change the brake with formula R1 including rotors another hundreds of grams.
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Definitely the switch to MAVIC SLR + RARA & XTR GroupSet will lighten your bike. OMG these weight wennie parts really push me hard to LOVE my JOB.
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1) Change the wheel with extralite tubotreme you will reduce about 885grams from ur current setup.
2) change the brake with formula R1 including rotors another hundreds of grams.
1kg agad ito. is that turbo extreme?

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Definitely the switch to MAVIC SLR + RARA & XTR GroupSet will lighten your bike. OMG these weight wennie parts really push me hard to LOVE my JOB.
I'm looking for Mavic SLR mukhang hindi pa available dito sa pinas.

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definitely it'll get a bit lighter when you shift to 2x10 or 1x10 setup but it'll be heavier to pedal uphill or on steep trails if you only got the big & middle chain ring otherwise it's fine if you have the middle & smallest.
Akala ko 2x10 is like 3x10 set up with out the biggest chainring. Bibigat ba talaga padyakan? Malaking diperensya? Sa La Mesa kasi parang bitin pa current 3x10 ko humihingi pa ng kambiyo. :D

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magaan na yan.. wehehe.. but since ayaw mo clipless..

am classic, ZTR, tapos XTR gruppo..

depende yan on your budget.. you should be willing to spend thousands to lose a few grams hehehe
Wheel set for now. next year group set naman. Hahaha not necessary pero I want it. :D
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Akala ko 2x10 is like 3x10 set up with out the biggest chainring. Bibigat ba talaga padyakan? Malaking diperensya? Sa La Mesa kasi parang bitin pa current 3x10 ko humihingi pa ng kambiyo. :D
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If you're after weight loss without performance compromise, in my opinion going to 2 x 10 is not an effective way, especially on a 29er FS. Kung malakas ka na ang you hardly use your granny ring then you can do this, but if not then I suggest you just get a lighter groupset or crank. On really steep climbs kulang pa nga ang gears ko since I don't stand while pedalling. My granny ring has 24 teeth and in some instances, I wish I had a 22 tooth granny ring. Iba kase pag 29er. It is more difficult to get going in really steep terrain. Go for the wheelset then. Changing the drivetrain -- especially the crank, cogs, chain (the parts directly involved in power transfer) can really make a difference, even if the actual weight lost is not that much. To save a few thousand pesos, I got XT shifters and cogs instead of full XTR, and the performance is still great. Regarding brakes, XTR trail is awesome. (I just wanted to get that off my chest)

Good luck sa upgrade.
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Default Re: 27.72lbs/12.580kg Jet9 RDO Carbon na bigat parin. :P

medyo mabigat nga at 27.2 lbs.

for more accurate comparisons, try this link. actual set-ups na, no guesses. most of them post the weights.

http://forums.mtbr.com/niner-bikes/o...410858-13.html

curious, ano size ng bike mo?

be careful about reducing too much weight though. you'll be sacrificing ride quality along the way.

my suggestions:
wheelset - crest 29er, dt revo spokes, amclass hubs
groupset - xtr. yes go 2x10 pero get 36-24 chainrings, and 11-36t cogset
saddle - some of the thinline WTB saddles are comfy yet still reasonably light
tires - meron na atang klimaxlite 29er na tires, pero these are pure XC tires, di pwede for hucking and stuff. let go of the ignitors

extralite parts will be difficult to get hold of in the country. try online ordering
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If you're after weight loss without performance compromise, in my opinion going to 2 x 10 is not an effective way, especially on a 29er FS. Kung malakas ka na ang you hardly use your granny ring then you can do this, but if not then I suggest you just get a lighter groupset or crank. On really steep climbs kulang pa nga ang gears ko since I don't stand while pedalling. My granny ring has 24 teeth and in some instances, I wish I had a 22 tooth granny ring. Iba kase pag 29er. It is more difficult to get going in really steep terrain. Go for the wheelset then. Changing the drivetrain -- especially the crank, cogs, chain (the parts directly involved in power transfer) can really make a difference, even if the actual weight lost is not that much. To save a few thousand pesos, I got XT shifters and cogs instead of full XTR, and the performance is still great. Regarding brakes, XTR trail is awesome. (I just wanted to get that off my chest)

Good luck sa upgrade.
I agree when you say 29er is more difficult to get going. It takes hrs of ride before got use to it. Group set or drivetrain upgrade is the last thing I will do. I'm more leaning on wheel set and tires. Thanks

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medyo mabigat nga at 27.2 lbs.

for more accurate comparisons, try this link. actual set-ups na, no guesses. most of them post the weights.

http://forums.mtbr.com/niner-bikes/o...410858-13.html

curious, ano size ng bike mo?

be careful about reducing too much weight though. you'll be sacrificing ride quality along the way.

my suggestions:
wheelset - crest 29er, dt revo spokes, amclass hubs
groupset - xtr. yes go 2x10 pero get 36-24 chainrings, and 11-36t cogset
saddle - some of the thinline WTB saddles are comfy yet still reasonably light
tires - meron na atang klimaxlite 29er na tires, pero these are pure XC tires, di pwede for hucking and stuff. let go of the ignitors

extralite parts will be difficult to get hold of in the country. try online ordering
crest and chris king bad combination ba for wheels?
When you 36-24 chainrings is that the size? Already on 11-36 cogs according to m mechanic.
I like trailing I don't want to sacrifice traction for the weight. Any tire suggestion that has good traction and light at the same time?
My frame size is Small. Thanks!
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chris kings are great hubs, they are tough, but if your priority is to lose weight you'll be better off with other brands.

in my experience for tires 29er crossmarks have a great balance between weight and grip and rolling resistance. rocket rons are great as well.

36-24 chainrings will be great for trail rides IMHO. if you have a 22 chainring matched with a 36t cog, that will be ideal for shotgun-type climbs, but not for your normal trail riding. even on a 29er.

the lowest gear i have on my 29er is 22-34, which would be roughly equivalent to a 24-36.
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