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He will be stripped of all his TdF titles, which will then be awarded to Ullrich, Beloki, Basso!

They're taking the title from one doper and giving it to yet another!

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sa panahon na ito.kung sino ang mapagtripan yari!!!

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He will be stripped of all his TdF titles, which will then be awarded to Ullrich, Beloki, Basso!

They're taking the title from one doper and giving it to yet another!
From what I read sir, USDA can RECOMMEND the stripping of the title to the UCI. But it seems that the TdF organizers are not too keen since

1 - they conducted their investigations then and found nothing.
2 - this is an International Event, not covered by USDA
3 - there was NO admission of guilt by LA, rather more of being exasperated than anything else.
4 - there were previous USDA probes done then that went nowhere. In fact, even this time, they are the ones saying he is guilty
5 - personally, I think the TdF organization can't take anymore drug related hits, especially they are looking at a CA survivor that won 7 straight times. He's their poster boy.

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naglabas ng ng statement si lance armstrong.
http://lancearmstrong.com/news-event...august-23-2012

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Greg Lemond tweeted..."Finally."

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From what I read sir, USDA can RECOMMEND the stripping of the title to the UCI. But it seems that the TdF organizers are not too keen since

1 - they conducted their investigations then and found nothing.
2 - this is an International Event, not covered by USDA
3 - there was NO admission of guilt by LA, rather more of being exasperated than anything else.
4 - there were previous USDA probes done then that went nowhere. In fact, even this time, they are the ones saying he is guilty
5 - personally, I think the TdF organization can't take anymore drug related hits, especially they are looking at a CA survivor that won 7 straight times. He's their poster boy.

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According to USADA, they apparently could strip him of all of his winnings:

"Travis Tygart, USADA's chief executive, said Armstrong would also be hit with a lifetime ban on Friday. And under the World Anti-Doping Code, he could lose the bronze medal from the 2000 Olympics, as well as any awards, event titles and cash earnings."

(http://espn.go.com/olympics/cycling/...cycling-career)

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they finally pulled the trigger...
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/usad...lts-since-1998

now my vhs copies of him winning those tours and documentaries are priceless lol I'll watch them again in a very different perspective or just throw them away.

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personal opinion ko,the USDA can do anything they want aswell as the UCI and TdF.kaya walang magagawa ng USDA kung hindi papansinin ang resulta ng investigation nila.TdF is an indipendent organization from Europe,masisira ang credibility nila kung aayunan nila ang USDA dahil nauna na sila nagclear kay LA.

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yeah.... for lance situation...UCI = Pontius Pilate ...UCI is part of the doping problem ...mga hipokrito! Dahil sa inyo naglaho bigla Marlboro Tour porket bawal daw sponsor and isang cigarette company...mga u_lUl! Kita kasi nila during marlboro tour 1998 na malalakas tlga mga Pinoy without any dopes.

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@alencore,you got a point sa pagkawala ng Marlboro tour.sayang talaga.baka sana kahit sa mga minot tours meron ng kasamang Pinoy.

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yeah.... for lance situation...UCI = Pontius Pilate ...UCI is part of the doping problem ...mga hipokrito! Dahil sa inyo naglaho bigla Marlboro Tour porket bawal daw sponsor and isang cigarette company...mga u_lUl! Kita kasi nila during marlboro tour 1998 na malalakas tlga mga Pinoy without any dopes.
I beg to disagree with the claim that Pinoy cyclists don't dope. A friend who used to race in the Tour( Tour of Luzon, Marlboro Tour etc.) knows first hand how a number of the cyclists take asthma medicine to improve "breathing." I guess blood doping and EPO were too expensive.

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How did Armstrong Get Busted



Lance Armstrong has announced that he will no longer fight accusations from the United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) that he used performance-enhancing drugs during his historic cycling career. Though the seven-time Tour de France winner still asserts his innocence, he now faces the loss of all the titles and associated prize money he has won since 1998. But what set Armstrong's epic fall from grace in motion and why is it culminating now? Life's Little Mysteries explains.



Why did authorities suspect Armstrong of doping in the first place?

Anyone who emerges from a bout with cancer to make a record-obliterating run on one of the world's premier sporting events is sure to draw skepticism, so it's not surprising that Armstrong has contended with allegations of doping for more than a decade. But his unprecedented domination was not the only source of suspicion. Even in 1999, the year of his first Tour de France win, there were already objective suggestions that Armstrong's success may not have been entirely on the up and up. That year, his urine sample showed a small trace of a banned steroid used to assist muscle recovery, but he was cleared when his team produced a medical certificate showing that the chemical was present in a cream Armstrong used for "saddle sores."

In 2005, a French newspaper reported that Armstrong's 1999 urine samples had retroactively tested positive for the "blood booster" Erythropoietin (EPO), a banned substance that couldn't yet be detected in urine tests in 1999. But because the 2005 urine tests were not conducted according to official standards, the results had no effect on Armstrong's standing.
Most damaging to Armstrong's claims to innocence has been mounting testimony from former teammates and associates who say they have witnessed or shared in Armstrong's alleged doping practices. Indeed, the USADA case that caused Armstrong to back down from arbitration rests in large part on a group of 10 former teammates who the agency says will testify to having firsthand knowledge of Armstrong's doping.
What types of drugs did Armstrong allegedly use?

The USADA accuses Armstrong of using EPO, human growth hormone, testosterone, anti-inflammatory steroids and various masking agents used to cover up his other alleged abuses. The agency claims to have physical evidence for Armstrong's supposed "blood doping," a practice designed to boost an athlete's red blood cell count that can either involve blood transfusions or the use of synthetic EPO.


What is EPO and what do blood transfusions have to do with athletic success?

EPO is a naturally occurring hormone in humans that regulates the production of red blood cells and — because red blood cells carry oxygen throughout the body — determines a person's oxygen-carrying capacity. A surge of red blood cells will temporarily supercharge an athlete's ability to deliver oxygen to muscles and thereby improve his or her endurance.

Without using synthetic EPO, cheating athletes can increase their red blood cells by temporarily extracting a unit of blood a few weeks before an event, waiting for their body to naturally recoup the missing red blood cells and then transfusing the backup unit into their bloodstream when they want a boost.

The USADA has accused Armstrong of using both methods of blood doping. Their claim is based on blood tests from 2009 and 2010 that they say are "fully consistent" with blood doping.

If the USADA has blood tests showing that Armstrong practiced blood doping in 2009 and 2010, does he have any grounds to continue to deny their allegations?
Because synthetic EPO is nearly identical to the hormone that naturally occurs in athletes' urine, it is notoriously hard to test for. A testing method capable of distinguishing synthetic EPO was not developed until 2000, and since then, athletes have successfully argued that it has yielded false positives.

There is still no sure test to detect a blood transfusion consisting of the athlete's own blood, and in suspected cases of non-synthetic blood doping, determinations of guilt are based on observed overabundances in red blood cells. Judgments like these can easily be called into question by athletes and sometimes explained by natural variations in red blood cell production.

It is not clear whether the USADA's claim of having tests "fully consistent" with blood doping rests on a positive test for synthetic EPO or on observations of anomalous red blood cell levels. The wording of their claim, that they have data "fully consistent with blood manipulation including EPO use and/or blood transfusions," suggests a degree of uncertainty about what conclusions can be drawn from the tests.


Is it a sure thing that Armstrong will be stripped of all of his titles and prize money now that he's stopped fighting the USADA's charges?

The International Cycling Union (UCI), the world governing body for sports cycling, disputed the USADA's authority to arbitrate the doping case, so it is still theoretically possible that the cycling union will appeal the USADA's ruling.

The UCI says it will withhold comment on Armstrong's USADA-mandated suspension until the agency has submitted a "reasoned decision" to the body, as they are obligated to do by the World Anti-Doping Code. In turn, the International Olympic Committee said that it will await decisions from the USADA and UCI before deciding whether to revoke Armstrong's bronze medal from the 2000 Sydney Olympics. But USADA chief executive Travis Tygart has said that the cycling union is "bound to recognize our decision and impose it."

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Index of Lance Armstrong doping allegations over the years...
http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/...over-the-years

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I don't want to judge but hopefully this is based on real evidence and not just testimonies from people like Floyd Landis (found guilty of doping himself).

It is rather sad for the pro tour to have this kind of news - burying it deeper in a pit of doubt.

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On the one hand I am totally for banning dopers from any sport as theyre bad influence to our young talents.

On the other hand, when sportsmen pass doping tests that they themselves sanctioned, that should be the end of it. Running after sportsmen LONG AFTER they have retired to prove a point to me is sad. What if somebody tainted the long ago blood samples kept in storage?

Poor LA, he shouldve befriended Lemond who IMO is a witch hunter - suspecting people of doping when the unbelievable is achieved. He could be right, but he could also be wrong.

Next for investigation - Pacquiao.

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I don't want to judge but hopefully this is based on real evidence and not just testimonies from people like Floyd Landis (found guilty of doping himself).

It is rather sad for the pro tour to have this kind of news - burying it deeper in a pit of doubt.
It is based mainly on over 10 witness testimonies, Landis and Hamilton being the most vocal that they have witnessed LA doped. In addition, USADA claims that blood values from LA during the comeback years (2009-2011) strongly indicated blood doping. Had LA chosen to go into arbitration, USADA would have made these evidences/testimonies public. But since he opted not to fight it, he was deemed guilty, and USADA does not have to make the evidences public.

Based on stories milling around, cyclingnews forum appears to have a lot of members "in the know", the other witnesses include: Leipheimer, Hincapie, Vandevelde, Vaughters, some of the biggest names in cycling now, and were with LA during the US Postal/Discovery years.

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that's pure hearsay... this is full craps... made by armstrong haters... been cleared on all test during all those race. USADA never ever presented real evidence. stand for lance... live strong. what cycling is today is because of LANCE ARMSTRONG...

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Index of Lance Armstrong doping allegations over the years...
http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/...over-the-years
thanks for sharing boss.....

ang hirap palang magsoot ng yellow jersey, lagi ka hahabulin ng mga accusations and controversies.....

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