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Old 12-14-2011, 11:02 AM
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On a verge of getting my bike this month.

I've been advised some Mt. bikers in my area that I should get a bike that is Taiwan made than on that is made from China (No Offensement po sa mga may China made rides).

Ito po ba ay totoo, meaning, mas maganda po ba talaga yung gawa ng Taiwan over China or its just all myth?

Pasensya na po sa tanong na ito.

Admins and Mods, paki delete nalang po if I posted in the wrong forum. Thanks.


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Old 12-14-2011, 11:37 AM
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Years ago, it was US vs Japan.
Then Japan vs Taiwan.
Now it's Taiwan vs China.

Yes..Taiwan is the bikehub of today.

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Maybe it also depends on the design / geometry. Not all Taiwan made bikes are more superior than China's.

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Nasa rider naren siguro kung pano gumamet mga product nila, china or taiwan pa yan. .

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Old 12-14-2011, 12:34 PM
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Ang tingin ko naman kung same brand example giant there should be no difference in quality since same materials and processes din yung gamit. I think most companies tried to produce their product in china due to cost savings. Just dont buy those parts that dont have names/brand since quality maybe in question.

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Old 12-14-2011, 12:49 PM
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i agree with sir lisingraul, if its the same brand and model, there shouldn't be a problem where the part / accessory was produced since it undergoes quality control.

I think what bothers many is the assumption that all China-made products are fake and inferior.

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Old 12-14-2011, 01:28 PM
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I used a China-made bike before La Bici yung brand, they even have a website and personally ok naman sya, lightweight and matibay and has already been abused several times...although it hasn't reached mainstream maybe because it's new or dahil China sya...

It all depends kung pano ka pumadyak sir regardless of the brand =)

BTW, yung la bici ko wife ko na gumagamit ngayon ok pa din naman...

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Old 12-14-2011, 01:52 PM
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Nice views mga Sirs...

Sa totoo lang, medyo nalito po din ako since ngayon lang uli ako magbubuo ng bike o kaya bili nalang ng built bike in a very long time.

Mahirap din mag distinguish kung alin po yung legit na frame or jafakes.

Tulad nung entry level na Giant ATX Pro sa sulit, for its 19k na price with Alivio group set, tapos hydro narin, napipigilan lang akong kunin ito dahil nga Made in China po yung frame niya.

Sa Merida naman po, base sa details ng Wikipedia, all Meridas are made in Taiwan, kaya
napupusuhan ko din po yung Merida Matts TFS 40 na worth 17k-ish. Then yung TFS 100 na built bike, nasa 22.5k naman na type ko din.

I's like to think that whether its Taiwan or China, it shouldn't be an issue.

More thoughts in this would be appreciated. Thanks in Advance.

@ Corollafreak, musta na Sir?


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Old 12-14-2011, 02:38 PM
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Sir Sting ng Toyota Region 3? Ikaw ba yan???? hehehe musta na sir!!! binenta ko na yung corolla ko kaya d na ko naglolog masyado dun hehehe meron ako 83 carina ngayon kaso binubuo ko pa hehe 63t makina =)

si fafa bong yayain nyo na din mag bike wahahaha...


sorry OT - pero going back most built bikes naman ngayon are made in taiwan eh...like merida nga for example...it all depends on your preference =) search mo yung forum dito on how to spot a fake frame (normally nasa bb) and parts...try mo din punta quiapo or cartimar para mas marami pagpilian... =)

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OT: Hehehehe ayon oh!!! Sir, hindi naman importante kung may oto ka o wala, I'm sure masisiyahan si Fafa Bonggay kapag nakapag log ka uli sa forums natin.

Haaaaaayzzzzzz, sayang naman yung Corolla mo, you put so much effort in your ride. Ayos, old school naman ngayon.

BTT:

Naghanap hanap nako dito sa Angeles LBS, halos 1k yung difference ng price nung fame na ATX 7 vs Quiapo.

Yung nakausap ko sa King's accomodating naman at sinasabi niya sa akin yung made in Taiwan and China.

Gandang ganda ako sa ATX, mura na yung price niya. Pwede daw nila akong gawan ng bike na 25k below.

BTW, hindi pa ako gaanong familiar sa MTB na jargons at abbreviations, noob question uli, what's bb?

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Old 12-14-2011, 03:42 PM
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OT: Hehehehe ayon oh!!! Sir, hindi naman importante kung may oto ka o wala, I'm sure masisiyahan si Fafa Bonggay kapag nakapag log ka uli sa forums natin.

Haaaaaayzzzzzz, sayang naman yung Corolla mo, you put so much effort in your ride. Ayos, old school naman ngayon.

BTT:

Naghanap hanap nako dito sa Angeles LBS, halos 1k yung difference ng price nung fame na ATX 7 vs Quiapo.

Yung nakausap ko sa King's accomodating naman at sinasabi niya sa akin yung made in Taiwan and China.

Gandang ganda ako sa ATX, mura na yung price niya. Pwede daw nila akong gawan ng bike na 25k below.

BTW, hindi pa ako gaanong familiar sa MTB na jargons at abbreviations, noob question uli, what's bb?

I'll post pics nung carina dun sa tr3 pag medyo na, right now kasi hindi pa itsurang carina eh hehehe

I have a friend nakabili ng merida matts 100 dyan sa angeles for 23k...i think you'll get the atx for that price, i'll send you a pm pag nakuha ko yung contact details nung lbs na yun sa angeles...

BB stands for bottom bracket =) yun yung sa may crank (normally kasi may serial number dun to check if orig yung frame or hindi)

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Old 12-14-2011, 03:47 PM
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^ aha, just like the BMX days right? Naaalala ko na nung bumili ako ng GT Performer Frame na pang BMX, may serial number nga.

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Parang ganun na nga fafa sting =)

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Old 12-14-2011, 10:14 PM
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Sana tuloy na tuloy narin ako next week Fafa, dumating na yung PNOY bonus, pero yung CNA namin wala pa

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Old 12-15-2011, 10:30 AM
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Ayos yan fafa sting! =) bili na para ride na tayo minsan hehehe

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_status_of_Taiwan

Republic of China (aka Taiwan) is not People's Republic of China. That said, there are various manufacturers that outsource their parts, components, and frames to China. Which China, the manufacturers know. Some say, the best components come from Taiwan. Cheaper parts come from PRC. It doesn't usually matter that much unless the work was really shoddy. More or less, there are PRC products that will be below manufacturer standards and only sold in PRC locally, not for international export.

Most of the frames built by the manufacturer Giant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_Bicycles) are made in Taiwan (and Giant manufacturers most other frames for other companies as well)

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Old 12-15-2011, 09:22 PM
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^ Nice info Sir Hiroda...

So far, with the entry level HTs tht I saw both online and in the market like the revel, atx pro, and talon 29ers' frames are made in china. The XTC on the other hand is made in Taiwan...

are there, if an, atx frames made in taiwan?

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Made in Taiwan is the new Made in China, psychological effect na satin kasi ang word na made in China = not durable madaling masira etc. thats for 2000s, 2010s era na ngayon, @ my view, nasa riders perspective na kung what bike/part talaga gusto nila, its your decision, your choice.

recently one of my friend bought a Marin built bike from USA, nung na delivered sa bahay nila at ginamit na nya, after a month na notice nya ang little sticker sa me bandang BB, naka sulat ay Made in China.

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Made in Taiwan is the new Made in China, psychological effect na satin kasi ang word na made in China = not durable madaling masira etc. thats for 2000s, 2010s era na ngayon, @ my view, nasa riders perspective na kung what bike/part talaga gusto nila, its your decision, your choice.

recently one of my friend bought a Marin built bike from USA, nung na delivered sa bahay nila at ginamit na nya, after a month na notice nya ang little sticker sa me bandang BB, naka sulat ay Made in China.
OT: bro, bought online ba yung Marin? Ilang days bago natanggap?

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kinesis bikes have a factory in taiwan and china

http://www.kinesis.com.tw/ABOUT.PHP


take a closer look at the number of employees:

Taiwan: 150
China: 1,400

take another closer look at the capacity of the frames being built each year:

Taiwan: 80,000
China: 1,500,000




and now make a conclusion kung sino ang mas in demand...

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