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Old 08-30-2012, 05:14 PM
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meron ba talagang dabomb cluster bomb model bakit kaya wala sa website nila?
meron din nag msg sa akin kung orig yung DaBomb Cluster Bomb frame ko, I said yes bka hindi lang updated yung website. I bought the frame thru intuition lang...I compared and inspected the frame with arrow bomb heck mas magaan and mas complicated ang design, mas maganda pa...so dun pa lang naisip ko na...orig to.. then nabasa ko ulit d2 sa thread jdg asking if meron talagang cluster bomb, so for our peace of mind...nag email na ko sa sales nila and here is their reply.


Thanks for your e-mail.
Yes, there is really a Da Bomb Cluster Bomb frame; it’s our new product which was launched in spring with a lot of other new items.
But sorry for we are still working on the updating data for our website now, and I believe you can see the new info soon on our website. Sorry for the inconvenience for it.
If you would like to know more detail about Cluster Bomb frame, you are more than welcome to contact us, or you also can talk to our distributor in Philippines . Below is Da Bomb Philippines Distributor contact information.


Yes! tama ako! haha but beware of fake Arrow Bombs that sells around 4.5k... dunno but iba yung colorway and finish nya sa arrow bomb that sells around 7K... bka late model...pero sbi ng tindera 2012 daw... nyek!


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Old 08-30-2012, 06:38 PM
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^ sa google kasi ang lumalabas na cluster bomb panay local na sellers lang wala sa international sites.

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Old 08-30-2012, 06:49 PM
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kaya guys...i would really appreciate if you also talk to the manufacturers. malay nyo may reward pa kung nagreport kayo ng fake.

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Old 08-30-2012, 10:04 PM
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Yes! tama ako! haha but beware of fake Arrow Bombs that sells around 4.5k... dunno but iba yung colorway and finish nya sa arrow bomb that sells around 7K... bka late model...pero sbi ng tindera 2012 daw... nyek!
Cycle Art is a distributor for DaBomb products.

http://www.pinoymtbiker.org/forum/sh...ad.php?t=82455

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

I highly recommend them. Look for Maam Arlene or Maam Swanie. Ask them directly and they will tell you the truth about their products.

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Old 08-30-2012, 10:49 PM
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I hate fake stuffs, maski sa ibang gamit mas gusto ko pang walang tatak or generic even low end kesa fake products. Sa Bike di biro ang ma fake...coz we don't know what will happen next...bka sa kalagitnaan na humahataw ka biglang bumigay yung product (coz di naman na test nga). so ingat ingat

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Diba lahat ng GT dapat triple triangle? Sino ba official distributor ng GT sa pilipinas? Dun nalang ako mag-inquire para sure. Hehe!

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Old 08-31-2012, 05:39 AM
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Galing po ako sa Quiapo last Saturday 8/25/2012. Sa Global Craze nung unang Price nung Giant XTC is around 12K, tapos nung inilapit na sa Chinese and may-ari binigay nlng ng 9k ung frame. Sila ung first shop na na conduct ako ng canvass. Tapos ang gulat nung mga ibang shop sabi nila wla raw XTX na 9k. Tapos pag punta ko dun sa GC Cyclist ang sabi sa akin may Taiwan/China at original ang XTC. Sabi sakin pag may thread raw Taiwan/China lang raw yun at kaya raw nila ibigay sa akin ng 8500. Ang original raw na XTC is ung walang thread press fit type un raw is around 13k hinde pa raw kasama ung press fit dun at mag add raw ako ng 1500 for the press fit. Pinaakyat ako sa taas at pinakita, pinabuhat at pinasalat sa aking un dalawang kalse ng XTX same color/style red/yellow. Wala naman ako nakita difference kung hindi isa may thread nga at ung isa naman wla. Pero kung sa bigat halos parehas lang naman.Totoo po ba na ang orig na XTC is un may thread. Newbie lang po ako sa MTB, balak ko sana mag assemble ito po ang specs ko, helpg naman po kung may mali or hinde compatible. Budget ko is 40k.

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Front Suspension Suntour Epicon X2 with remote
Headset cheapest sealed type
Groupset Shimano Deore 10 Speed w/o hubs
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Saddle cheapest
Tires Maxxis
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Hindi po fake ang mga threaded type na Giant XTC malamang kaya mas mura sya is because they are old stock models na.
Giant XTC FR frames until 2010 model are threaded types while 2011 to 2012 model are pressfit types. Giant frames are made in Taiwan.

There are two types of Giant XTC
1. Giant XTC FR
2. Giant XTC Team Embossed (with embossed Giant logo)

For Giant XTC FR they differ in their paint job and bottom bracket type

2010 Giant XTC FR has threaded bottom bracket





2012 Giant XTC FR has Pressfit bottom bracket




For Giant XTC Team Embossed they are all threaded type bottom bracket they just differ in their decals or paint job.

2010 Giant XTC Team embossed




2011 Giant XTC Team embossed





2012 Giant XTC Team embossed




Baka po meron may picture sa inyo ng fake na Giant XTC please kindly post it here. Thanks.

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Old 08-31-2012, 07:47 AM
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yung nakita ko XTC selling for 9.5k pang 2012 XTC 0 built bike ang paint color and decals tapos threaded bb siya.

ganitong-ganito
http://www.giant-bicycles.com/_gener...2012/XtC_0.jpg

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Old 08-31-2012, 08:33 AM
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yung nakita ko XTC selling for 9.5k pang 2012 XTC 0 built bike ang paint color and decals tapos threaded bb siya.

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http://www.giant-bicycles.com/_gener...2012/XtC_0.jpg
The one in your link is pressfit 2012 model






Baka ito ung nakita nyo 2010 model ito na threaded





Both of these frames are not fake

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Old 08-31-2012, 04:47 PM
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^2012 ang nakita ko. try ko kunan ng pic kapag nagawi ako ulit dun sa lbs.

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Old 08-31-2012, 05:45 PM
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Eto pa isang klase ng Giant XTC
2012 Giant XTC Pro mas mura sya sa XTC FR
Iba na itsura ng frame nya tapered headtube with V-brake post and threaded BB


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Old 08-31-2012, 10:49 PM
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natry ko kanina hawakan yung fake na ritchey stylo, feels cheap ang paint selling at 650 pesos. parang mas sulit pa mag abr at least orig. how about yung truvativ xr, is it original? wala kasi sa site nila. thanks sensya na po kung natanong na siya

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Old 09-04-2012, 02:01 PM
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meron kaya topeak na fake like the bottle cage?

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Old 09-04-2012, 02:18 PM
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fake na ritchey HB for 650?
sa ryder HB na lang 500 pesos good quality, di pa fake

lahat na yata ng nakikita kong truvativ XR japeyk

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if theres one thing na mapost is sana ung guidelines pano natin ma destinguish ung japeyk sa orig kc nakaka loko tlaga kc nga napakahirap n nga malaman as for now kc if ever na japeyk nga is nakagaling nga ng pagkakaimitate minsan nga lang nakakapagtaka is ung price mapapabili ka tlaga kc laki ng difference sa orig which is minsan nakakapagtaka dahil wlthout knowing eh peke pla..hoping na magkatulungan or matulungan natin ang mga kababayan at kabike natn na d maloko ng mga mapagsamantala...un lang ang sakin at mraming salamat..

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Old 09-05-2012, 07:32 AM
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ang usual kong clue kung fake ang isang item eh yung quality ng paint

tumingin kayo ng orig na truvativ stylo stem compare nyo sa fake, laki ng difference sa looks alone

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hi guys,

yung giant XTC na frame na 16" (made in taiwan) color is red and white GIAnt letters from a bike shop in quiapo? is that a fake? which sells 9k. please let me know asap kasi baka yung ang bibilhin ng brother ko.

thanks


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if theres one thing na mapost is sana ung guidelines pano natin ma destinguish ung japeyk sa orig kc nakaka loko tlaga kc nga napakahirap n nga malaman as for now kc if ever na japeyk nga is nakagaling nga ng pagkakaimitate minsan nga lang nakakapagtaka is ung price mapapabili ka tlaga kc laki ng difference sa orig which is minsan nakakapagtaka dahil wlthout knowing eh peke pla..hoping na magkatulungan or matulungan natin ang mga kababayan at kabike natn na d maloko ng mga mapagsamantala...un lang ang sakin at mraming salamat..
Best Guideline is to back read this thread completely. There's a wealth of knowledge shared here. It just takes patience and discipline to read every post. But its worth it because it can save you lots of money and heart ache. After reading the whole thread you will be able to summarize and make your personalized guidelines for yourself.

Each bike part and accessory is different and there are endless ways to copy and make fakes so to list every single one is impossible.

To make the ultimate guideline in one sentence would be:

Use your brain in making decisions.

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hi guys,

yung giant XTC na frame na 16" (made in taiwan) color is red and white GIAnt letters from a bike shop in quiapo? is that a fake? which sells 9k. please let me know asap kasi baka yung ang bibilhin ng brother ko.

thanks
sir if you can post a pic of the frame, we can help you

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tama, kitang kita ang fake na truvativ lalo na sa paint job. yung set na truvativ na nakabox, is it fake? yung nabili ko naman na truvativ, accurate sa itsura sa site, may manual na kasama at may packaging. seems orig. truvativ stylo t20

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