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Old 02-10-2010, 11:40 AM
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Hi! My thoughts on the bike:

It's way, way cheaper to buy a built bikefrom the big companies esp. giant(who manufactures frames for specialized, trek etc)

Consider this, these companies by their spareparts by the container-loads, not by piece, not by the tens even. Think about their buying power, and how much discount they get from shimano, sram etc for getting their gruppos.

Have also checked with some friendly LBS's, and have confirmed that they sometimes purchase overstocked bikes from this companies and sell them not as whole bikes. . . but instead they chop them up for parts with which they get a tidy profit.

Built bikes from those companies have different levels from the same model-line, take or example trek's trail bike entry, you can choose between the fuel ex5, ex6 until ex9. All would depend on your budget, same frame, same geometry but with different groupsets.

While it is true that starting from scratch would yield you the bike with the parts that you like, it would be very costly in the end. Buy a built-bike in the level that you can afford. In case you dont like a part, don't use it, instead sell it as new to friends or on e-bay. Mabilis pa sa alas-kwatro because you can price it lower ng hindi ka malulugi.

When you break down the parts on a built-bike, you could save at the very least 10k outright, savings could as go as high as 50k or more depends dun sa price/model ng bike na binili mo.

Re Carbon bars and posts, i don't think you could save a lot of weight replacing your existing aluminum bars and posts, at most 300 grams??? that won't be much, cost to benefit ratio is just isn't there, "bling-bling" na lang yon, instead go for lighter wheels, tires with relatively lower rolling resistance, nandon yun realworld difference, lower revolving mass would make it easier to pedal, making you faster, making the bike feel lighter than it actually is.

just my two cents worth. . . Happy Trails!!!


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Old 02-10-2010, 11:47 AM
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@mcoy123
thank you very much. i am decided not to replace seat post and handle bar. i am also decided to buy a built one. hoping may mabilhan ng gusto kong color at model.. well, i guess i rather wait..

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Old 02-10-2010, 11:51 AM
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bilis ah. . . trek's dealer would be lifecycles and rox, in case you haven't bought that green beauty yet.

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Old 02-10-2010, 11:55 AM
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taga rito pa ako batangas city eh. problem ko pa rin kung pano nila mashi-ship sa akin. last time kasi bumili ako ay sa kings tapos sinakay lang nila sa bus kaya nakarating sa akin. wala yata sila sa sponsors natin? may numbers ka ba nilang dalawa? cp number? di rin pwede sa landline long distance, business line pa naman tong landline ko mahal tawag hehe!

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Old 02-10-2010, 12:05 PM
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I am based i abra, got my trance from lifecycles, originally it was to be shipped via lbc, kaso ang mahal, luckily one of my friends was in the area, pina-pick up ko na lang sa kanya. yeba!!!

anyways lifecycles(025842442/09228842862) rox(028564638). Although they are the same company, lifecycles are more flexible with their prices.

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Old 02-10-2010, 12:06 PM
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naku talagang mahal kapag gumamit ng mga totoong shipping like air21 at lbc. hindi talaga pe-pwede sa ganun. sanay rin kasi ako magpaship at tumanggap ng shiopment galing sa dalawang yan kaya alam kong mahal talaga. thanks sa number

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no problemo! enjoy shopping!

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Old 02-10-2010, 12:57 PM
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just called them, yung lifecycles. wala na silang stock ng kahit anong brand na hard tail na size 17-18 na naka mechanical breaks.. mura lang pala yan trek 4300 with mech break, 23k lang.

@iancg1
favor ikaw na tumawag sa ROX ask mo kung anong mga meron nila hard tail bike with mechanical breaks size 17-18 at ano color.. budget is 23-27k. damay mo na ako sa inquiry mo ha ubos na load ko eh hehehe!

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Old 02-10-2010, 01:07 PM
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Wala po ba sila cellphone number? Nasa province kasi ako kaya long distance kahit landline. Hehe.

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Old 02-10-2010, 01:08 PM
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saan ba province mo? province dito ako eh batangas city hehehe! ang hirap naman bumili ng bike, may pambili nga wala naman mabilhan LOL!!! kakatawag ko lang rin sa LBS ko dito. sabi ko itanong na rin nila later mga price ng ibang bikes. hay.. tsk tsk.. kakapanghinayang kung hindi ko mabibili ang prefer kong bike talaga..

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no problem sir, they could ship, if its within luzon, LBC(mahal sobra). if its visayas-bound, ap cargo(mura ATA).

@ripantnow- - - sure na po kayo sa size nyo? if you want, you can check this link

http://www.ebicycles.com/bicycle-tools/frame-sizer

hirap kasi baka sumala, since you're not there to fit the bike yourself

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Sa Cagayan de Oro pa po ako. Hehe. If I cant order bikes, I think I'll go with the following build:

GT Avalanche 3.0 frame - 3,700
Suntour XCR fork - 4,000
Deore SLX groupset w/ disk brakes - 14,000
Specialized saddle - 400
FSA seat post - 600
Specialized handle bar - 280
MTBA handle post - 600
9/16 alloy pedal - 250
Kenda tires (pair) - 1,100
CST tube (pair) - 200
D-wall Dee Max rims (pair) - 700
stainless spokes - 240
seat clamp alloy - 200
handle grip lock on - 150
head part YST - 280

Total - 26,700

Ok na po ba or needs improvement pa?

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Old 02-10-2010, 01:15 PM
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re-check kung tama size ko and yes, 17"-18" ang size ko. i have no plans na ipaship ang bike sa totoong shipper like air21 lbc etc, ipapasakay ko lang yan sa bus kagaya nung ginawa ko noon.

pero parang give up na ako sa pagbili thru phone calls lang at bank deposit. mahirap shipping talaga eh. baka dito na lang ako sa amin bumili kahit medyo mahal.

sa ngayon prices na lang ang habol ko malamang.. pero ngayon at alam ko na price ng trek 4300 with mech breaks ay may idea na rin ako kung saan maglalaro price budget ko.

pero subaybayan kita, kung mura lang shipping ay baka makigaya ako sa yo.. balitaan mo ako ha

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Old 02-10-2010, 01:21 PM
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Medyo hindi rin ako ganun ka confident kung bank deposit then shipping eh. I plan to get the specs I posted nalang if I dont push through. What kinda set-up will u be going with po?

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Sa Cagayan de Oro pa po ako. Hehe. If I cant order bikes, I think I'll go with the following build:

GT Avalanche 3.0 frame - 3,700
Suntour XCR fork - 4,000
Deore SLX groupset w/ disk brakes - 14,000
Specialized saddle - 400
FSA seat post - 600
Specialized handle bar - 280
MTBA handle post - 600
9/16 alloy pedal - 250
Kenda tires (pair) - 1,100
CST tube (pair) - 200
D-wall Dee Max rims (pair) - 700
stainless spokes - 240
seat clamp alloy - 200
handle grip lock on - 150
head part YST - 280

Total - 26,700

Ok na po ba or needs improvement pa?
Prices i feel are fair enough, considering your from there.

For me it's ok na, ganda na yun gruppo mo, the others could be easily remedied once you've been afflicted with "Upgradeitis" =)

go with your budget. . . enjoy the ride.

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Prices i feel are fair enough, considering your from there.

For me it's ok na, ganda na yun gruppo mo, the others could be easily remedied once you've been afflicted with "Upgradeitis" =)

go with your budget. . . enjoy the ride.
Thanks po. How about the other parts aside from the groupset? I'm still a college student so even if I get infected by the upgraditis, I dont think I can afford anytime soon. I'm just worried maybe the other less expensive parts I picked might wear out early.

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Thanks po. How about the other parts aside from the groupset? I'm still a college student so even if I get infected by the upgraditis, I dont think I can afford anytime soon. I'm just worried maybe the other less expensive parts I picked might wear out early.

Ups sorry. . . 2 o'clock habit(pm trail rides)

IMHO, the others(except for your fork) are non-mechanical parts na, so i feel that would suffice for "normal" abuse.


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also...try to look for 2nd hand built bikes at FS thread...

daming ok jan...pili ka lang ng mabuti and inspect mo well...

ul be able to get a bike bot at 45 to 60k..

negotiate nlang...

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'tho mahirap to since you're a newbie. as suggested already.."READ"... it will help you decide on what discipline ang gusto mo sa MTBiking.

your 30k budget will go a long way if you focus on the sport and riding rather than the "porma" factor that is usually the cause of expensive rigs.

once you decided on what discipline you want, get a decent bike (maski di masyadong mahal), leave some money for tools, protective gears and equipment (mas importante yun kesa porma). start riding, focus on honing your skills then 'pag familiar ka na sa sport and the nitty-gritty info of MTB parts it's easier for you to upgrade later.

remember lang po. if ever di mo magustuhan ang MTBiking, nakakahinayang naman to see your 30K bike just gathering dust in one corner of your garage. ok lang kung mabebenta mo agad or you have that much money to spare.

suggestion lang po.
+1m ako dito kaya ako di ko na muna iniisip yung porma nung bike iniisip ko kung kaya ko talagang panindigan tong new sport ko and my priority is improving my stamina para di nako naiiwan ng mga commuter bikers sa daan

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Sa Cagayan de Oro pa po ako. Hehe. If I cant order bikes, I think I'll go with the following build:

GT Avalanche 3.0 frame - 3,700
Suntour XCR fork - 4,000
Deore groupset w/ disk brakes - 14,000
Specialized saddle - 400
FSA seat post - 600
Specialized handle bar - 280
MTBA handle post - 600
9/16 alloy pedal - 250
Kenda tires (pair) - 1,100
CST tube (pair) - 200
D-wall Dee Max rims (pair) - 700
stainless spokes - 240
seat clamp alloy - 200
handle grip lock on - 150
head part YST - 280

Total - 26,700

Ok na po ba or needs improvement pa?
Guys what do you think of the previous specs I posted vs. the 2010 Jamis Durango 1? I need feedback since I only have the opportunity to get either this or my previous specs before Sunday. The following is its specs, sold at 25k:

Frame: 7005 triple-butted aluminum main tubes, over-sized seat tube, sloping radius top tube, box-section down tube at BB, zero-stack head tube, over-sized stays, replaceable derailleur hanger
Fork: RST Gila Pro, MCU/coil spring with lock out, external preload adjustor, 100mm travel
Headset: Zero-stack internal cup threadless, 20mm shim stack, 1 1/8”
Wheels: Alex TD25 disc-specific rims with reinforced spoke bed, Formula alloy disc hubs, 14g black stainless steel spokes
Tires: Geax Saguaro, 26 x 2.2”
Derailleurs: Shimano Deore Shadow rear and Altus M311 34.9mm dual pull front
Shiftlevers: Shimano Acera RapidFire Plus SL-M360, 24-speed
Chain: KMC Z82
Cassette: Shimano HG40, 8-speed, 11-32
Crankset: Shimano Acera M361, 42/32/22, 170mm (13-15”), 175mm (17-21”)
BB Set: Sealed cartridge, 68 x 122.5mm
Pedals: Full platform with steel outer cage
Brakeset: Tektro IO mechanical disc brake with 6” wavy rotor and ML-330 levers
Handlebar: Jamis XC alloy riser, 6D sweep x 13mm rise x 620mm wide
Stem: Jamis XC alloy threadless, 10D rise x 75mm (13”), 90mm (15”) 100mm (17””) , 120mm (19-21”)
Grips: Velo Kraton, medium diameter
Seat Post: Jamis alloy micro-adjust, 31.6 x 350mm, with alloy QR clamp
Saddle: Jamis Trail with pressure relief channel, wide tail platform and scuff-resistant corners

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