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Old 12-23-2008, 08:54 AM
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Default Re: newbie help - 30K budget for a bike...

my suggestion...vision pursuit frame and suntour xcr fork (kasi madaling mabenta itong dalawang ito tapos mura pa at ok na rin ang performance), tapos lahat ng parts i-deore LX mo na, kung kung may masisingit kang xt mas mabuti...kakasya ba 30k dun? saka ka na magpalit ng frame at fork kapag na-tripan mo mt. biking


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Old 12-23-2008, 10:08 AM
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but first of all kelangan i-set mo kung ano ba ang gusto mong disiplina sa mtbiking or the purpose of which you would want to build an mtb.
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'tho mahirap to since you're a newbie. as suggested already.."READ"... it will help you decide on what discipline ang gusto mo sa MTBiking.

your 30k budget will go a long way if you focus on the sport and riding rather than the "porma" factor that is usually the cause of expensive rigs.

once you decided on what discipline you want, get a decent bike (maski di masyadong mahal), leave some money for tools, protective gears and equipment (mas importante yun kesa porma). start riding, focus on honing your skills then 'pag familiar ka na sa sport and the nitty-gritty info of MTB parts it's easier for you to upgrade later.

remember lang po. if ever di mo magustuhan ang MTBiking, nakakahinayang naman to see your 30K bike just gathering dust in one corner of your garage. ok lang kung mabebenta mo agad or you have that much money to spare.

suggestion lang po.

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Old 12-23-2008, 01:32 PM
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Default Re: newbie help - 30K budget for a bike...

kapag nabasa mo pa yung ibang mga thread dito ng mga nagtanong sa pagbubuo ng bike nila lalo na yung magkaibang budget, dun pa lang medyo makakadecide ka na ng bike na para sa yo..

imho, spend 20k for your first bike and 10k for gears, tools, etc.... ako yung 1st bike ko nga, mali yung size sa kin kase medyo almost a month lang ako nagbasa basa dito at atat na atat na kong bumili, pero enjoy na enjoy pa rin akolalo na nung nagamit ko na sya sa trails, which was just last friday.... di ko pa naman masyado iniinda yung effect ng small frame sa kin, yun nga lang pangit tingnan sa in kase mukhang bmx, pero ang mahalaga eh happy ako!

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Old 12-23-2008, 03:31 PM
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Default Re: newbie help - 30K budget for a bike...

The only drawback to reading all those wish lists and wonderful bling parts that is the treasure trove of PMTB is that:

1. You will surely have a headache.
2. Instead of being enlightened you become distraught.
3. You end up paying more for what you bargained for.

Hindi ka pa pumapadyak nyan..hehe..

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Old 12-23-2008, 05:15 PM
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Default Re: newbie help - 30K budget for a bike...

Go for a hardtail and put your money into a good quality drive train, brakes, etc. There are plenty of solid HT frames around, look at Giant, KHS, Jamis, Kona, etc. LX drive train, BB7 brakes and a solid wheelset should be doable on that budget and you will have a quite trailworthy bike. You can upgrade down the line when you have a better feel for what sort of riding you'll be doing.

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Old 12-23-2008, 08:32 PM
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Default Re: newbie help - 30K budget for a bike...

bro i'm also a newbie, but before you make that purchase better read this thread first
Newbie's Frequently Asked Questions > Common Newbie Misconceptions about MTB


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Old 02-09-2009, 01:21 AM
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Default Re: newbie help - 30K budget for a bike...

Buhayin ko lang tong thread..

Due to price increase of components/parts.. Ano ang mabubuo mong bike for XC from a 30K budget?



Frame -
Fork -
Crankset -
Rear Derailleur -
Cogset -
Front Derailleur -
Chain -
Brakes -
Rims -
Spokes -
Hubs -
Tires -
Tubes -
Shifters -
Handlebar -
Stem -
Seatpost -
Saddle -
Seat Clamp -
Head Set -
Pedals -

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Default Re: newbie help - 30K budget for a bike...

This reminds me as a newbie when I bought my bike last Nov.2008.
When I first window-shopped on some LBS's, my budget in mind was 15K.
When I was ready ready to buy, I set a budget to 20K.
When I bought the bike, I spent 25K on bike alone.
With the accessories (helmet, hydrapack, rack, cyclometer, tools, apparel, etc.), now I have spent over 35K still without parts upgrades yet.

As a newbie, it pays to read, ask around and know what you want (heart and $$$).
Also, consider not just the bike cost alone but the essential accessories which still amounts to several thousands pesos.

I learned about PMTB a few days after buying the bike. Now I am thinking (being meticulous) : if I had known PMTB before buying my bike, maybe I would still be on the stage of buying parts and trying to build a "perfect" bike until now

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Old 02-09-2009, 10:15 AM
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Default Re: newbie help - 30K budget for a bike...

Hmmm.... Let me try this one.

Frame - Vision Pursuit - P4k
Fork - Suntour XCR w/ LO - P3k
Crankset - Deore - P3k
Rear Derailleur - Deore - P1.2k
Cogset - Deore - P0.9k
Front Derailleur - Deore - P0.8k
Chain - Dura-Ace - P0.9k
Brakes - Shimano Non-series Hydro - P4.5k
Rims - WTB Wheelset - P3.8k
Spokes - kasama na sa wheelset
Hubs - kasama na sa wheelset
Tires - Kenda Nevegal - P2.5k
Tubes - generic - P0.3k
Shifters - Deore - P1.2k
Handlebar - Turbolite, Da Bomb Bad Bone, FSA - P0.8k
Stem - FSA - P1.2k
Seatpost - FSA - P1.2k
Saddle - WTB - P0.9k
Seat Clamp - (kasama na sa Pursuit frame)
Head Set - (kasama na sa Pursuit frame)
Pedals - Wellgo - P0.8k

Grips - Token - around P0.5k
Spacers - Kristel, Token - around P0.5k

Well, it's a tad above P30k. Pero oks na yan. Konting tawad lang, papasok yan sa budget.

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Old 02-09-2009, 10:49 AM
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Default Re: newbie help - 30K budget for a bike...

sir try mo
x7 rd and trigger 4k
BB7 mech disk brakes 3.5k or shimano non series hydro
deore cogs, crankset and fd 4.5k
tora bora frame 5k
hg 53 chain P400
wtb speed disc wheelset 3.5k
kenda nevegal 2.1 2.3k
suntour xcr 3k advice lakaya kung ng baka palitan mo din to agad pag nahilig ka
kaya kung kaya lang din ng budget bili ka na rockshox,manitou, marz or fox.. kahit entry level lang...
ikaw na bahala sa iba... don't forget the helmet


goodluck!

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Default Re: newbie help - 30K budget for a bike...

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I learned about PMTB a few days after buying the bike.
Same as me. Last November I decided to assemble an MTB ( My friend give me a frame).. We went to a nearby LBS to buy all the components that we need to make the bike complete. I didn't know that bike parts have a lot of brands and types..and also depends on what discipline your going to. What I only know is just "SHIMANO"..
So we ended up spending 13K.. then after 2weeks I knew PMTB. and this become the start of confusion..hehehe

After reading some info regarding MTB here, I decided to sell my bike to a friend for 6K before I go abroad.. So while I'm overseas I'm trying to learn as much as I can by reading here at PMTB. Then when I get back to phil next week then I can build my own MTB.hehe



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Hmmm.... Let me try this one.

Frame - Vision Pursuit - P4k
Fork - Suntour XCR w/ LO - P3k
Crankset - Deore - P3k
Rear Derailleur - Deore - P1.2k
Cogset - Deore - P0.9k
Front Derailleur - Deore - P0.8k
Chain - Dura-Ace - P0.9k
Brakes - Shimano Non-series Hydro - P4.5k
Rims - WTB Wheelset - P3.8k
Spokes - kasama na sa wheelset
Hubs - kasama na sa wheelset
Tires - Kenda Nevegal - P2.5k
Tubes - generic - P0.3k
Shifters - Deore - P1.2k
Handlebar - Turbolite, Da Bomb Bad Bone, FSA - P0.8k
Stem - FSA - P1.2k
Seatpost - FSA - P1.2k
Saddle - WTB - P0.9k
Seat Clamp - (kasama na sa Pursuit frame)
Head Set - (kasama na sa Pursuit frame)
Pedals - Wellgo - P0.8k

Grips - Token - around P0.5k
Spacers - Kristel, Token - around P0.5k

Well, it's a tad above P30k. Pero oks na yan. Konting tawad lang, papasok yan sa budget.
Thanks for a detailed response fafah..
So kung Deore LX pala ang components na gagamitin e +/- 40K aabutin..


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sir try mo
x7 rd and trigger 4k
BB7 mech disk brakes 3.5k or shimano non series hydro
deore cogs, crankset and fd 4.5k
tora bora frame 5k
hg 53 chain P400
wtb speed disc wheelset 3.5k
kenda nevegal 2.1 2.3k
suntour xcr 3k advice lakaya kung ng baka palitan mo din to agad pag nahilig ka
kaya kung kaya lang din ng budget bili ka na rockshox,manitou, marz or fox.. kahit entry level lang...
ikaw na bahala sa iba... don't forget the helmet


goodluck!

Thanks din sa advise fafah..

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Old 02-10-2009, 06:14 AM
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Default Re: newbie help - 30K budget for a bike...

For me, buying a wide variety of bicycle component brands for a build is like having a Filipino dessert made popular by Digman's in Bacoor, Cavite.

So if I were to build a decent XC bike for P30K, regardless of its make, i'll spend half of it to get a Shimano Groupset. But there is a hierarchy of quality which stratifies the Shimano product range and 'decent' starts with the Deore LX. Others down the line are cheap for a reason. Period.

Then I'll use a quarter of the amount to buy Alex or Mavic rims, Maxxis or Kenda tires, Panaracer or Continental tubes, stainless spokes and nipples, and RST or Suntour fork. I wouldn't go for a second hand Manitou, Marzocchi, Fox or Rock Shox because of the Latin maxim caveat emptor. But that is another story.

And the rest, for an aluminum frame with parts that go with it like headset, seatpost and clamp, saddle, stem, handlebar and grips like Amoeba Hussar or SARS Inferno. It is much easier and affordable to upgrade these than the members of a gruppo.

Finally, I'll wish to have more money to spend for protective gears and other accessories.

My two cents worth.

Cheers!

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Old 10-22-2009, 12:48 AM
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Default Building a Bike - 25k to 28.5k Budget

Kumusta PinoyMTBers,
Nitong mga nakaraan na linggo ako'y namimili ng mga parts para sa bisekletang aking iaassemble.

Di ko po sigurado kung ano ang mga tawag sa parte basta ang alam ko pakailangan pa ng Upuan, Hawakan, Gulong atbp

Patulong naman ho mag fill out ng mga kulang pang parts at presyo sa aking listahan basta dapat pasok.

25k po ang aking budget at kapag pinilit ko ay kaya mga 28.5k


GTS S3 7.5k (i am open to getting a good HT)

Shimano Deore Groupset 11k (decided on this)

Suntour XCR
80/100/120mm w/remote LO 3k





Initial Total: 22k

Budget: 25k Semi Strict (sagad na +3.5k nito)

Not sure kung may Discount pa ang mga LBS.

and some questions,
ano ang folding at non folding tires?
ayung handlebars (yung hinahawakan ng kamay)ano ang significance nung nakaangat at di nakaagat ang dulo



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Old 10-22-2009, 01:44 AM
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With your budget very doubtful you can complete this bike, medyo madami pa kulang:

Rims and spokes (if the Groupset comes with hubs already)
Cockpit (Stem, handlebar, seatpost, saddle, grips)
Tires and tubes

You may be able to if you switch to a Hard tail frame, like the KHS 2000 which is around P. 5,000 and includes headset and seatpost already.

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Old 10-22-2009, 09:53 AM
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Default Re: Building a Bike - 25k to 28.5k Budget

Sir nitong sunday lang nagbuo din yung ka officemate ko ng bike niya.. inabot ng 21,500 lahat except for frame, stem at brake cable.. deore ang drivetrain, non series ang hubs at mech brake.. epicon ang fork.. yun nga lang HT ang frame niya vision pursuit

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Default Re: Building a Bike - 25k to 28.5k Budget

Heto parts list for geared HT:

Frame:
Fork:
RD:
FD:
Shifters (usually me cable na):
Cogs:
Chain:
Hubs:
Spokes:
Nipples:
Rims:
Tube:
Tire:
Rimtape:
Brakeset (Caliper, Cable/Hose, Lever, Rotor):
Crankset:
BB:
Pedal:
Headset:
Seatpost:
Seat Clamp:
Saddle:
Stem:
Handle Bar:
Grip:
Spacer:

Since meron ka na ibang items, fill-in the blank na lang. Then do the math. hehehe...

HTH.

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Default Re: Building a Bike - 25k to 28.5k Budget

Try to canvas muna bago ka bumili nga parts ng bike. make a list
sample list ni sir ezrydre

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Default Re: Building a Bike - 25k to 28.5k Budget

if you're in a tight budget. this is something i can recommend
rims: mavic x223 600 @ or get the mavic x117 900-1000 @
spokes and nipples (generic) 400 sobra na nga siguro to
tires : kenda karma 550 @
tubes: around 150 @
stem: ABR standard 450
handlebar: easton standard alloy 350 either
grip: generic 150-200
seatpost: abr 27.2 800
saddle: velo 550-600
headset : ritchey 550
additional : velo cateye speedometer velo 8 700

hope this helps....

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Default Re: Building a Bike - 25k to 28.5k Budget

@nikkoguiam

You forgot to mention kung what you intend to do with the bike (i.e. kung pang downhill, xc, trail or pang exercise-village ride).

Having said that, you may also consider MOB parts kasi mas mura siya at okay naman ang quality. Check out mo din ang buy and sell section ng PMTB. May mga magagandang piyesa ka makikita na okay naman presyo. Used nga lang.

Built bikes are also an option for you. Sa budget mo, you can get a good quality HT. You won't have to worry about details on how to build a bike kasi pag nasakyan mo na built bike, if you like the fit then buy it na and ride it.

Maganda din ang mag assemble ng bike pero it will cost you kung medyo high end mga choices mo.

At tama sila lahat, mag canvass ka. For example, ang turing sa yo nung LBS na napagtanungan mo sa Suntour XCR eh P3T. Kay Jane sa King's P2,700 lang yan. with the P300 you save, makaka bili ka na ng dalawang good quality inner tubes.

Just be patient. Libre naman magtanong at mag canvass.

Good luck sir! Happy Hunting!

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Default Re: Building a Bike - 25k to 28.5k Budget

sir,
for me i think it would be better if you try and check out the buy and sell section.nice bikes can be had for a good bike for less the price(since they are used).some of them have good parts too.

my two cents

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