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Old 10-13-2008, 12:21 PM
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Upgrades are for enhancing performance and/or enjoyment. I would say that it is very easy for me to enjoy a bike, may it be entry level or a high-end rig, so I don't upgrade just because. So I would advice you to get the most bike that your budget can get. It's better and more cost-efficient to spend for a higher model rather than to upgrade a lower model. Kung kaya naman eh, bakit hindi yung mas mataas na spec na ang kunin diba? But if you really cannot stretch your budget, it's ok too. Just ride the bike. Then when the time comes to upgrade (whether to replace worn parts or to enhance performance), you'll know which components you need to get more ooph in your riding. The ease of upgrading will depend on how quick you can draw from your pockets.

Anyway, Sabak offers the XC-604 (modified build) at a sale price of 60k (from 70+k sticker price). It's got a RockShox Ario 2.1 rear shock and a Fox fork. Yes, Fox fork! The KHS XC-604 comes in white only.
Noted chief! hehehe yung budget ko kase is 20-25k, so the 004 was a perfect match... I wasn't thinking of building from scratch since wala pa nga akong smallest idea on how to go around a bike, be it right parts or etc.. i just want to know if I'm getting the most bang for my buck with the xc-004.

maraming salamat sir!


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Bro, got a friend who went for xc-104. Upgraded the rear shocks to Fox and had a very good setup. He just needed to ask a friend to fabricate bushings. KHS with Fox is indeed, a very good setup.

Before upgrading, enjoy the built bike muna. Next time na upgrade. Once you have really used your bike, you will definitely know what you need to upgrade.

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Old 10-13-2008, 12:32 PM
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Noted chief! hehehe yung budget ko kase is 20-25k, so the 004 was a perfect match... I wasn't thinking of building from scratch since wala pa nga akong smallest idea on how to go around a bike, be it right parts or etc.. i just want to know if I'm getting the most bang for my buck with the xc-004.

maraming salamat sir!
Ayun swak nga sa budget! Actually, the 25k XC-004 is a BIG loud bang for your buck. You can't build such bike for 25k if you were to start from scratch. Kaya sulit na talaga! Go and get it na! Remember to get the right size for your height. Then let's ride para mai-Sabak (pun intended) na yan sa trail!

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Upgrades are for enhancing performance and/or enjoyment. I would say that it is very easy for me to enjoy a bike, may it be entry level or a high-end rig, so I don't upgrade "just because". So I would advice you to get the most bike that your budget can get. It's better and more cost-efficient to spend for a higher model rather than to upgrade a lower model. Kung kaya naman eh, bakit hindi yung mas mataas na spec na ang kunin diba? But if you really cannot stretch your budget, it's ok too. Just ride the bike. Then when the time comes to upgrade (whether to replace worn parts or to enhance performance), you'll know which components you need to get more ooph in your riding. The ease of upgrading will depend on how quick you can draw from your pockets.

Anyway, Sabak offers the XC-604 (modified build) at a sale price of 60k (from 70+k sticker price). It's got a RockShox Ario 2.1 rear shock and a Fox fork. Yes, Fox fork! The KHS XC-604 comes in white only. (Nakasabit sya kaya hindi gaanong kita). The other KHS XC-series built bikes come in red and dark blue and cost somewhere in the 30k vicinity..

sir the specs of the 604 at sabak aside from what sir tigs already mentioned is that. it has haydes hydo breaks, LX cranks, Lx Rear deurailers, Lx front din ata not sure about that, sun ringle lite rims, simano hubs, shimano clipless peddals, yun lang ma remember ko

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Bro, got a friend who went for xc-104. Upgraded the rear shocks to Fox and had a very good setup. He just needed to ask a friend to fabricate bushings. KHS with Fox is indeed, a very good setup.

Before upgrading, enjoy the built bike muna. Next time na upgrade. Once you have really used your bike, you will definitely know what you need to upgrade.
Nice! thanks for the tip sir! it'll definitely be a good learning process for me with the built bike!

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Ayun swak nga sa budget! Actually, the 25k XC-004 is a BIG loud bang for your buck. You can't build such bike for 25k if you were to start from scratch. Kaya sulit na talaga! Go and get it na! Remember to get the right size for your height. Then let's ride para mai-Sabak (pun intended) na yan sa trail!
oo nga sir e, i asked around for full suspension frames, mejo mahal, hinde nga kakasya 25k for a full suspension bike! sige sir! thanks a lot!

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thanks a lot mga sir! mga sir kung bubuo ako from scratch ng FS na bike, pwede ba kayo mag-suggest ng parts given nung price range ko na 20-25k? anong frame ang maganda na swak sa budget?

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thanks a lot mga sir! mga sir kung bubuo ako from scratch ng FS na bike, pwede ba kayo mag-suggest ng parts given nung price range ko na 20-25k? anong frame ang maganda na swak sa budget?
Ngyek, ano ba talaga kuya? Well, if you were going to build from scratch, 20k budget doesn't include the frame. So, you will need to have a budget of around 36k to build a similarly spec'd bike as the KHS XC-004. Mas mahal kasi pag tingi-tingi. Built bikes are cheaper because the big brands can get the parts by bulk, that's why they can price their built bikes competitively.

Sample 20k bike build kit:
XCR 120mm fork with lock-out
Shimano Deore groupset, 08 drivetrain, mech disc brakes
Ritchey handlebar, stem and headset
WTB saddle, generic seatpost
Alex DP20 rims, black stainless spokes and nips
Toxic 1.95 tires and tubes
generic grips
generic pedals

Full-sus frame:
KHS XC-series (with coil shock) around 15-16k

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Ngyek, ano ba talaga kuya? Well, if you were going to build from scratch, 20k budget doesn't include the frame. So, you will need to have a budget of around 36k to build a similarly spec'd bike as the KHS XC-004. Mas mahal kasi pag tingi-tingi. Built bikes are cheaper because the big brands can get the parts by bulk, that's why they can price their built bikes competitively.

Sample 20k bike build kit:
XCR 120mm fork with lock-out
Shimano Deore groupset, 08 drivetrain, mech disc brakes
Ritchey handlebar, stem and headset
WTB saddle, generic seatpost
Alex DP20 rims, black stainless spokes and nips
Toxic 1.95 tires and tubes
generic grips
generic pedals

Full-sus frame:
KHS XC-series (with coil shock) around 15-16k
awryt! natanong ko lang naman chief! hehehe mukhang dun na nga ko sa built-bike! salamat ulit!

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awryt! natanong ko lang naman chief! hehehe mukhang dun na nga ko sa built-bike! salamat ulit!
Okay! I'm glad to help. Happy bike shopping! And oh, post agad ng pics when you get to bring home your new bike! Wow, this gets me excited! As always, when I know someone is going to get a new bike, I get excited too!

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Okay! I'm glad to help. Happy bike shopping! And oh, post agad ng pics when you get to bring home your new bike! Wow, this gets me excited! As always, when I know someone is going to get a new bike, I get excited too!
will do chief! excited na nga din ako e! hahaha! salamat!

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You might be interested in other brands. I was at Cartimar (Paulina's) last week I saw a built bikes like HARO R1 and Mongoose ( dont know the model ) that are below 25 K.

For me these are good entry level FS bikes.

Just wanted you to have an options.

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You might be interested in other brands. I was at Cartimar (Paulina's) last week I saw a built bikes like HARO R1 and Mongoose ( dont know the model ) that are below 25 K.

For me these are good entry level FS bikes.

Just wanted you to have an options.
sige sir spottan ko din minsan pag napadaan ng cartimar!

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Haro is also a very good brand, IMHO. Mongoose entry-level bikes don't get too many good reviews though..

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sori guys hindi nako nkareply sa thread nato, thanks for all your inputs.. I already purchase KHS xc 604 bike.

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sori guys hindi nako nkareply sa thread nato, thanks for all your inputs.. I already purchase KHS xc 604 bike.
hi! pwede malaman kung saan at magkano mo nakuha? i'm also interested in the same model.
tnx!

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Default Disk-ready frame?

Eto po talaga ang newbie question, heh-heh.

How would you know if disk-ready or not ang isang MTB frame?

Advanced thanks for your patient replies!

More padyak power to all bikers!

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Eto po talaga ang newbie question, heh-heh.

How would you know if disk-ready or not ang isang MTB frame?

Advanced thanks for your patient replies!

More padyak power to all bikers!
Pag merong disc tab hehehehe!

Ok seriously, yung sa likod ng frame leftside, merong nakausli na parte at meron siyang 2 butas.
Wala ka bang nakikita na bike na merong disck brakes? pansinin mo yung disc brake sa likod at imagine mo na lang na wala yun tapus tignan mo yung frame na gusto mo kung meron nun. hehehehe!
Sana nakatulong ito!

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pag may nakasulat na "DISC" sa pangalan ng frame, like mine is a Giant Iguana Disc frame.

ay tsaka disc-specific sya ha, not just disc-ready. di mo sya pwedeng kabitan ng V-brakes kasi wala syang V-brake bosses.

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