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Old 12-21-2009, 12:22 PM
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Found some nice helpful info on bashguards, chainguides, sana makatulong sa mga gusto maglagay nito (isa nako dun) :)

http://www.sketchymtb.co.uk/Blah.pl?m-1256685123/
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Default Re: Good information on Bashguards, chainguides, etc

information overload to sir ha! :) Thanks! present setup ko kasi SLX dual crank, planning to get chainguide, any inputs kung ano magandang chainguide, for the SLX Dual crank, XT medium shadow and 11-34 xt sprocket?
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Default Re: Good information on Bashguards, chainguides, etc

this is good info, been contemplating on the same for quite sometime. however, it'll have to wait some more. my lack of riding times does not justify the upgrade even if it's a ride improvement.
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maloyski - don't take this as gospel sir kasi ako rin pinagaaralan ko pa no magandang magagmit ko for dual ring setup din. i have the same setup as you, although i'm using sram for RD, pero mid cage rin, same xt cogs, xt cranks.

sa nakikita ko mga reviews, forums ang pinaka economical na gumagana talaga is yung blackspire stinger. para lang syang tensioner. so far i haven't read anything negative about it, lahat sinasabi it's as simple as it gets, pero it works.

Most guides kasi are dedicated for single ring setups, yung stinger is for dual para magamit pa rin yung fd for the granny, and it will accept any bash guard i suppose, even the tig-350 pesos na shimano. sakin kasi yung purpose ko ng bashguard is not to actually hit immovable objects, but more for my leg protection. nadali nako before sa leg, i have 15 chainring tooth scars on my right calf :)

that's what i'm planning to do, para mura lang, the only prob i haven't seen any lbs here that sells blackspire gear. if wala talaga i might end up getting online along with the 36t ramped chainring to replace the stock 32t XT ring.

something like this, but fitted with the shimano bash for protection lang.

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Default Re: Good information on Bashguards, chainguides, etc

I move that this thread be moved to the chainguide thread
Yung may title na "e13 chainguide" na nakakalito kasi paibaiba yung topics!

Good read though!
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Meron bang bash guard na compatible sa big ring? Ayoko tanggalin kasi i need it for long rides. I find it efficient konting padjak lang malayo ang mararating.
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vonichi - yes sir meron, yung lang ewan ko lang kung meron dito. blackspire c4 big ring protectors -

http://www.blackspire.com/qs/product/83/5946/263248/0/0

pjax - no probs sir, di ko lang alam kung pano ilipat. maybe one of the mods can do it po :)
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finally settled on a truv rockguard and truv shiftguide. di nako makahintay to order online ng blackspire stinger e, the price will come out the same din naman including shipping from the US, so hopefully oks to..

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this has gotta be the cheapest chainguide ever! :) wonder if it works

http://www.pinkbike.com/forum/listco...threadid=58086



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@shauntot, try mo ihiga pa yung chainguide, para tumaas yung pulley. Pasa mas mabatak yung chain
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pjax - oo nga sir, nasa 7pm position sya ngayon, dapat nsa 8pm position. anyway, wala kasi akong bb spanner tool, dalin ko muna sa suking lbs para mapa adjust. pero ok na rin nung nagamit ko sa pestano nung sat, di nako nalaglagan ng chain kahit anong jump sa gold trail, so happy na rin ako :)
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Rule of thumb is dapat hindi exposed yung pulley. Protected dapat ng bashguard


Seriously considering that ziptie chainguide for weight savings!
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pjax - oo nga no, that makes sense, kung nakalabas yung roller kesa sa bash yun ang unang tatama instead of the bash. tama mapa adjust nga. thanks po!!

sige sir try niyo yung ziptie, baka effective din murang mura pa! :)

eto pa, more pics from the link in pinkbike. some guys even added to the original ziptie lang, put in some rollers with the ziptie para daw mas less drag. i'm going to try this with my 4x bike before i buy a proper chainguide for it, pag gumana to, yehey! :)





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Default Re: Good information on Bashguards, chainguides, etc

wala kaming magawa ng kaibigan ko kagabi so we decided to give this cable tie DIY chainguide a try. Nilagay namin sa frame niya and I tried to go jumping with it around the village, anything I could put the bike up on and jump down I did mga 2 footers, tapos konting rampa sa mga humps, it didn't drop the chain at all :)

nagkaroon pa ng bonus, kasi di muna namin ginupit yung cable tie kasi nga testing pa lang, yung isang cable tie di namin napansin tumatama sa gulong. tuwing aandar ka, tunog chris king! identical sound as in :) yun nga lang kahit pumapadyak ka tumutunog pa rin hehe.

ultimate weight savings, and kung maupod na yung cable tie, palitan lang ayos na. wala pang roller version yan, will update back on this thread kung gano katagal itatagal nung cable ties. very cheap :)

sensya na sa pic quality, madilim, bulok pa cellphone ko

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Default Re: Good information on Bashguards, chainguides, etc

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finally settled on a truv rockguard and truv shiftguide. di nako makahintay to order online ng blackspire stinger e, the price will come out the same din naman including shipping from the US, so hopefully oks to..

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sir, how much po inabot? saan kayo nakabili ng mga parts? TIA
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nabili ko yung truvativ stuff sa endless sa pasay, malapit sa cartimar. yung chainring bolts sa rox sa serendra.

2k for the shiftguide
1k for the bash
400 for the chainring bolts

without the chainring bolts, you wont be able to install the bashguard to a shimano crank. maiksi kasi yung stock bolts ng shimano. but if you're not going to use a bash guard, ok lang yung stock bolts.
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thanks for the info sir...btw, hindi ka pa po ba nag palit ng 36T chainring?
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I have a question about the chainguide. Is it correct to say that the purpose of this is to prevent the chain from falling when doing jumps or riding bumpy tracks? But how about when shifting from big to small ring? will the chainguide prevent it from falling? My problem is on my full sus bike, i have a dual ring and when cranking uphill, when I shift to granny, the chain falls off. I read from some bike forums and they say its normal this thing to happen in fullsus bike specially when cranking uphill or when the crank is loaded and you downshift to granny. My question is, will the chainguide for dualring will solve this problem?
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that was my problem before sa IH 6.4; so i insatlled e13 DRS..ayown never na akong nalalaglagan ng chain..ako n lng nalalaglag....lol
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Panalo yung zip tie! feeling ko, mukang ok na combo yung zip tie at FD! pamalit sa Hussefelt box buide napaka-bigat at makakapag-dual chainring pa ako! hehe...
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