Info: folding bikes

[Boon]

Originally Posted by baliwag

1) Do you have problems bringing your FB inside malls? coffee shops? NONE

2) In cases where you were not allowed to bring in your FB, how did you secure it?
HAVENT EXPERIENCED THAT

3) Did you have trouble with the twitchiness at the beginning?
ITS NORMAL BUT WHEN YOU RIDE MORE WITH IT MAS MASARAP PALA HANDLING NIYA

4)Based on how I plan to use it, is a 16" or 20" better for me?
16 ARE REALLY SPACE SAVERS THAN 20.SPEND MORE TIME AT JUNNIS BAKA MAS MADALI MAKAPILI.

Thank you for your reply. May nabasa kasi ako about a few tiklopers who had heated arguments with some guards for refusing to let them enter a mall with their FB. It's good to hear you didn't have that problem. I'm leaning towards 20" although I will take your suggestion to ride 16" also. I might drop by Junni later for this.

Originally Posted by dino

sir, you might also want to check out Tiklop Society's FB page: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gi...0958769&ref=ts

Thank you Dino. Already joined this group.

Originally Posted by jesteredquilag

papi eco3 user hir ser same with jepsky of team tureros... been riding our FB's for months now nasurvive naman po niya ang long rides ng tureros (Tagaytay, sierra loop, pampanga, etc) hopefully banaue someday hihi so far wala pa po akong flats since nung binili ko siya last december. all i can say is it's worth the buy

Thank you for the feedback about the Eco3. It's good to know that it can do long rides.

Originally Posted by gamol51

uyyyy magandang balita eto...another tikloper in the making...

i'm a MUP8 user so far happy with it... when it comes to ECO3 sir jester and jepsky is the right person to ask ...kung saan saan na nila na test ang ECO3 nila... si Idol baliwag naman ang pinakaunang umahon ng baguio using a 16" MUSL...

anyway regarding price... i would suggest that sa dealers ka bumile kase they can give you up to 10% discount even Junni's will recommend this to you... Junni's can only give up to 5% to protect there dealers....

i would say Dahon is a good choice kahit anong pang model mapile mo... average lang ang presyo nang dahon hindi sobrang mahal di rin naman sobrang mura... but take a closer look sa quality nang workmanship panalo talaga...

basta wag ka lalampas sa size 20" para pwedeng isakay sa LRT

Thank you for the suggestion. Its true that the cheapest Mu P8 I found is with a dealer. I'm surprised to find out how big a discount can be given.

But let me ask my earlier question to Gamol and Jester, have you had problems entering a mall with your FB? Quite curious about this.

Thanks a lot!

[jesteredquilag]

@boon: hihi SM centerpoint palang ser napapasok ko mall with my FB. Hmmm my feedback... napapangiti ung guard habang tinitiklop mo ung bike then pagdating sa loob i just leave it sa baggage counter sa grocery area... just tell them maggogrocery ka lang then gooo... did not have problems sa pagpasok sa mall nacucurious pa ung guard at naguusisa how much i bought my folding, etc.

[Boon]

Originally Posted by jesteredquilag

@boon: hihi SM centerpoint palang ser napapasok ko mall with my FB. Hmmm my feedback... napapangiti ung guard habang tinitiklop mo ung bike then pagdating sa loob i just leave it sa baggage counter sa grocery area... just tell them maggogrocery ka lang then gooo... did not have problems sa pagpasok sa mall nacucurious pa ung guard at naguusisa how much i bought my folding, etc.

That's a good reaction Tinatanong ko kasi si Baliwag 16" ang bike niya which means its much smaller than a 20" which is your Eco3. Ganda rin nun suggestion mo to leave it at the baggage counter

Originally Posted by cabz09

yun nga rin sa tanong ko @sir jester. (although di po ako security guard ng SM ) magkono nga ba range ng FB na yan? plano ko rin sana bumili para pamasok sa opis.

I can help you with this. Dahon's cheapest model I've inquired is the Eco3 which is around P13K with discount. Nagulat ako na meron din P100K+ na FB / Dahon brand. Meron din other brands like Peerless na mas mura. Starts at P6K or so. Lastly may option daw to go Japan Surplus shops which sell at even lower prices for used FBs.

By the way, Tiklopers. I've taken a sudden interest in 16" FB particularly the Curve D3. Problem is parang wala dito sa Pinas. Parang SL na yun only available Dahon branded 16". Can anyone confirm?

[mrbigger]

grabe feadback parang gusto ko nang kunin wallet ko and buy one na already ihihihi! thanks guys! another question regarding eco 3, do i need to upgrade any parts or just out of the box use it? planning to do loops with it if ever. already tried nordstern1's p8, ok sya. tama kayo ganda ng quality ng dahon. hopefully get one soon...

[gamol51]

Originally Posted by Boon

But let me ask my earlier question to Gamol and Jester, have you had problems entering a mall with your FB? Quite curious about this.

Thanks a lot!

as of the moment wala pa naman... actually once ko pa lang naman na-try ipasok sa mall.... i even ask the guard kung pwede ipasok...mabait si manong guard itinuro pa sa akin ang elevator

palang celebrity pa ako during folding and unfolding daming bumabati at minsan may interview pa ...

basta ako i always make sure na hindi naka-harang or magiging obstruction yung FB ko pag nasa fastfood, coffeeshop..etc ako para hindi maging simula nang pagba-bawal nang FB....

[Boon]

Originally Posted by gamol51

as of the moment wala pa naman... actually once ko pa lang naman na-try ipasok sa mall.... i even ask the guard kung pwede ipasok...mabait si manong guard itinuro pa sa akin ang elevator

palang celebrity pa ako during folding and unfolding daming bumabati at minsan may interview pa ...

basta ako i always make sure na hindi naka-harang or magiging obstruction yung FB ko pag nasa fastfood, coffeeshop..etc ako para hindi maging simula nang pagba-bawal nang FB....

Takaw tingin pala yan

Another question. Sorry ah dami kong pahabol. In your opinion, mas madali bang magcommute using a foldie? I mean is it more maneuverable? I admit that I'm a scared of commuting but I've tried it using an MTB and a Roadie but I can only do it on light traffic days. I can't imagine tackling the streets of Downtown Manila on a full size bike. Is a foldie much better?

[gamol51]

Originally Posted by mrbigger

grabe feadback parang gusto ko nang kunin wallet ko and buy one na already ihihihi! thanks guys! another question regarding eco 3, do i need to upgrade any parts or just out of the box use it? planning to do loops with it if ever. already tried nordstern1's p8, ok sya. tama kayo ganda ng quality ng dahon. hopefully get one soon...

out of the box bro pwedeng-pwede nang gamitin ang ECO3.

[whoops]

Originally Posted by Boon

Takaw tingin pala yan

Another question. Sorry ah dami kong pahabol. In your opinion, mas madali bang magcommute using a foldie? I mean is it more maneuverable? I admit that I'm a scared of commuting but I've tried it using an MTB and a Roadie but I can only do it on light traffic days. I can't imagine tackling the streets of Downtown Manila on a full size bike. Is a foldie much better?

hello BOON, why is this so? (just curious )

[gamol51]

Originally Posted by Boon

Takaw tingin pala yan

Another question. Sorry ah dami kong pahabol. In your opinion, mas madali bang magcommute using a foldie? I mean is it more maneuverable? I admit that I'm a scared of commuting but I've tried it using an MTB and a Roadie but I can only do it on light traffic days. I can't imagine tackling the streets of Downtown Manila on a full size bike. Is a foldie much better?

pag heavy trapik i would prefer to use may MTB mas madaling umakyat at bumaba sa bangketa... the only advantage nang folding pag pagod ka na pwedeng isakay nang PUV's

in my opinion halos magkasing haba lang ang frame nang folding at MTB/Road mukha lang mas maliit dahil sa size nang gulong

Originally Posted by Boon

Takaw tingin pala yan

tumpak...nakakatuwa naman kase

[Boon]

Originally Posted by whoops

hello BOON, why is this so? (just curious )

"I can't imagine tackling the streets of Downtown Manila on a full size bike."

Hi Miss Whoops. Let me qualify my statement. I know that a lot of our brothers & sisters frequent this area with their full-sized bikes and have no problems whatsoever. For me though, its a different story.

Its because several times I've rode my bike through traffic, I've always felt it as an uneasy and harrowing experience. I'll be the first to admit that its probably partly because of my lack of skill. The scariest that I remember was in Ortigas extension Cainta where I had to straddle between a commuter and a bus. Muntik pa sumabit yun commuter sa handlebar. This was a sunday by the way.

Also there was this one time where I was going to a customer in a place past Tutuban (I'm coming from Masangkay) and I walked. I was thinking to myself that I wished I brought my road bike. At some point along the way, there is a portion of Recto that was closed off and Tiangges occupy the street. I thought to myself that I couldn't bring my bike through this. At that time, I didn't think of a foldie. Looking back, I was thinking that maybe a foldie would have made the experience better? I don't know but I'm curious about it.

I've done a ton of reading with regards to foldies and a lot of the comments are that its "life changing" and I'm just curious if someone who is as less skilled as me can have more confidence to commute with a bike hence change my life?

Originally Posted by gamol51

pag heavy trapik i would prefer to use may MTB mas madaling umakyat at bumaba sa bangketa... the only advantage nang folding pag pagod ka na pwedeng isakay nang PUV's

in my opinion halos magkasing haba lang ang frame nang folding at MTB/Road mukha lang mas maliit dahil sa size nang gulong

tumpak...nakakatuwa naman kase

I see. So MTB pa rin better when it comes to commuting because its access to the bangketa. Thanks a lot, Gamol!

UPDATE: I went to Junni just this morning to try out the other bikes that they have there. First off, I tried their Peerless Lite. It's a 16" bike with a P9K price tag. When I tried it out, there seems to be a problem with the derailleur. It kept jumping and clicking. They had a mechanic who tried to fix it to no avail. He told me if I really want it he'll get a new stock but thought to myself "no way". By the way, the derailleur is a Shimano Tourney. This is the same derailleur I see used in mall bikes.

I also tried out the Dahon Curve SL. I liked it but I felt that 16" is way twitchy for me. Although I feel I can conceivably get used to it at some point. I tried folding it but it felt to be not as small as I'd hoped. It was slightly smaller package than a 20" but I felt it wasn't so significant. Also it's at least P10K more expensive than a Dahon Mu P8.

Lastly, I tried out the Dahon Mu P8. This time they let me ride through the hallway. I really felt that the 20" is for me.

I've also noticed a few things. I've looked at the Eco 3 and Vitesse D7 and compared with the Mu P8. Seems that there are no fenders for the Eco 3 and Vitesse D7 while Mu P8 has these. Also for all 3 models, there are no racks included. Sad to hear this because Peerless has racks even on their lowly Lite (but I was disappointed with the demo unit so I've basically scratched that off my list).

Anyway I'm still in the process of research. Hope you guys can continue to comment and guide me to the optimal decision. Cheers!

UPDATE 4/5/11: Parang sira ako wala nang nagrereply sa thread ko hehe.

Anyway, what a difference a few days can make. Last week, I was set on buying a Dahon Mu P8. That all changed when I took a peek at a Brompton. I was able to resist the urge when I was lusting for one last year because they are expensive and they are not readily available. However, you will know what is right for you and this just feels like it. Of course it will hurt my pockets but I'm not set on buying one just yet. I'll have to pool my funds before that happens. That's why I'm letting of a lot of my things. Another alternative I'm looking at are Flamingo bikes which are very similar to Brompton and the good thing is they have a dealer here unlike Brompton.

Let's see if things change a few days from now

[caloypalaboy]

peerless baracuda user here component wise, mas mataas sya.

pm sent for the site.

[muchos]

Same question on the frame fold technology of Dahon, how is it different? I own a Giant FD806 and considering either the peerless barracuda or Dahon eco3 as an nalternative. I think they have the same weight though but I like the components on the peerless plus the quick release hubs but not sure of the reliability and availability of parts unlike the dahon

See you all this Sunday

[caloypalaboy]

so far di pa naman sya nabigay.

hardest uphill climb is when we went to Caliraya-Lucban-Majayjay and back. haven't tested yet in baguio/banaue though. but i guess it will just fairly work well like Dahon.

For the availability of parts? It is using just the same component for MTB (rd, fd, brakes, shifters)

[dunkingkong]

Advisable b na gawing commuter bike ang foding bike?

s space walang problema pwede mong ipasok ung bike sa loob ng opisina

pero in terms of speed ng folding bike, pwede b syang gawing commuter

[jesteredquilag]

one simple answer ser is................. YES

my reasons...
- pede ipasok sa office buildings, malls, establishments, stores, etc. (if permitted)
- maneuverable on traffic situations
- you can bring it anywhere
- in terms of speed (marami pong pwedeng pagpilian... not all folding bikes are geared with low gear speed)

hope this helped

[Luis89]

absolutely YES... para sakin masgusto ko tong pan commute at cute tingan....

[sayoohimura]

yes...dito may mga 10speed na folding bike....ung sakin 9 speed..mtb ang mga gear...body lang ang folding...at saka disc brake na....

[plorwaks]

ser kung speed ang problema mo, umalis ka na lang ng mas maaga kesa pag MTB ang gamit mong commuter bike...

kung single speed lang ang folding na available sayo magcompensate ka na lang sa travel time...

kung tutuusin mas madali sa folding kasi pwede mo siya bitbitin most of the time dahil space saver sya... lalo na kung sasakay ka ng LRT1 at LRT2

[maranello]

I agree on all advantages mentioned in this thread.

Dagdag ko na lang na if you are after speed, it will help if you get the 20" wheels vs 16". Bigger wheels also helps on epic rides. If you plan to carry folding bike with you in the LRTs, please do not get a wheel bigger than 20"

[dunkingkong]

folding bike saka road bike sana pinagpipilian ko kong gawing commuter.

pero mas maka save ako ng space s apartment kung folding bike kesa s road bike

anong folding bike b pwede nyong recommend para s 20k budget ung 20" o mas malaki p n wheel size